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A Conversation with Gerry Fishman on the Occasion of "Coming of Age at 65" at the Hudson Guild Theatre During the Hollywood Fringe Festival, by James Scarborough

Written and performed by Gerry Fishman, directed by Francisco Roel, “Coming of Age at 65” is a poignant exploration of late-life rejuvenation and the complexities of familial relationships, performed with a blend of humor and introspection. Fishman’s narrative delves into the intricacies of his relationship with his father, his bond with his children and grandchild, and the personal demons he has battled. These themes are personal and relatable. They offer the audience a mirror on their own lives.

Fishman’s background in stand-up comedy is evident in his delivery, which skillfully interweaves levity with profound insights. That he can turn his own adversity into engaging and thought-provoking material shows his comedic prowess, not to mention his emotional resilience. The production’s staging at the Hudson Guild Theatre provides an intimate setting that enhances the audience’s connection to Fishman’s journey.

Roel’s direction complements Fishman’s performance. The emotional beats are as impactful as the comedic ones. The result is a seamless integration of humor and pathos that resonates long after the curtain falls. “Coming of Age at 65” is a testament to the enduring power of self-discovery and the transformative potential of art at any stage of life. Fishman’s performance is not just a reflection on the past but an inspiring call to embrace the possibilities of the future, proving that it is never too late to find joy and fulfillment.

JS: Elaborate on the moment or series of events at age 65 that sparked your creative rebirth?

GF: There was a moment when someone I greatly admired was talking about their own childhood and used the word “trauma.”  I never thought I had a traumatic childhood, because there was no alcohol abuse, physical or sexual abuse, and I always thought that trauma came from those kinds of conditions. Strange as it sounds, that understanding caused a burst of creative energy in me.   

JS: How has your background in stand-up comedy influenced the writing and performance of “Coming of Age at 65”?

GF: I have had so much love for stand-up, particularly improvisational comedy, throughout my life, and it is a huge part of the show.  My first experience of this love was watching my dad watch “The Phil Silvers Show.” I wanted to make someone laugh that hard.  My kids have the same gene, and their “writing” is a big part of the script.

JS: You reflect on your relationship with your father. How did this relationship shape your journey and the themes in your show?

GF: I learned the value of unconditional love from him.  I think dads get a bad rap in our culture, and I wanted to share my love for my dad - and his values - in the show. I love sharing the stories of my dad with my kids.

JS: Your show also looks at your connections with your children and grandchild. How do you incorporate such personal subjects into your performance?

GF: It was probably the easiest thing to do in the writing.  They are brilliant and have shown it from an early age.  I tried to be a good secretary.  It was seamless to weave their stories into my new-found appreciation of my own childhood.

JS: What role does comedy plays in addressing and resolving personal and familial conflicts?

GF: It doesn't always help, to be honest.  Once the heat of a conflict is lowered, there may be a chance to use humor, but, more often than not, comedy can be a way to minimize or deflect.  In a theatrical setting, it can bring out some truth in a way that is easier to accept.    

JS: Discuss how you transform personal experiences and inner demons into material suitable for a theatrical performance?

GF: Lots of journal writing, practicing at the supermarket on unsuspecting audience members, friends, family and random neighbors on walks.  See what “works” through repetition.  And “works” doesn't always mean provokes laughter.  It can mean induces violent head nodding, too!

JS: Francisco Roel has a diverse directing portfolio. How has his direction influenced your performance and the overall production of the show?

GF: He added so much to the effectiveness of the script through visuals (there is a screen in the back of the stage) sound effects, and most impact-fully during a particularly pivotal, emotional scene through a brilliant choice of lighting.  You gotta see it.

JS: Given your experience in comedy clubs, how does performing in a theatrical setting at the Hollywood Fringe Festival differ from your stand-up routines?

GF: I have the freedom to let ideas breathe.  It doesn't have to be setup-punch, setup-punch.  I had a message which does not lend itself to a nightclub setting.

JS: What message do you want the audience to take away from “Coming of Age at 65”?

GF: There's a lot of us walking around with unexpressed grief, in pain, confused, lonely, unheard.  And we may not share political views, or tribal affiliations.  But we share this.  And we all could be a little more compassionate; we all will be more compassionate when we realize this fact. 

JS: What advice would you give to someone experiencing a late-in-life creative awakening similar to yours?

GF: It hurts to keep it in.  It's scary to let it out and it's worth the discomfort to do just that.

TAKEAWAYS

Fishman's creative resurgence at age 65 was triggered by a profound moment of understanding his own childhood trauma. This realization released a surge of creative energy, allowing him to explore and express his personal experiences in his show. The reflection on his past and the recognition of his trauma became a catalyst for his artistic endeavors.

Fishman's background in stand-up and improvisational comedy significantly influenced both the writing and performance of "Coming of Age at 65." The humor and storytelling skills he developed in comedy clubs are evident in the show's structure and delivery. Additionally, the influence of his father's love for comedy and his children's contributions to the script demonstrate the intergenerational impact of humor in his life.

Central to Fishman's show are the themes of family relationships and the value of unconditional love, as learned from his father. He weaves personal stories of his father, children, and grandchild into the performance, creating a deeply personal and relatable narrative. Fishman aims to convey a message of shared human experiences, encouraging the audience to recognize their unexpressed grief and pain and to cultivate compassion for others.

Performances are Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 1:00 p.m.; Sunday, June 23 at 4:00 p.m.; and Sunday, June 30 at 1:00 p.m. The Theatre is located at Hudson Guild Theatre, 6539 Santa Monica Blvd., Hollywood, CA 90038. Tickets are $15. For more information click here.

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